# 07 gem wont move

**URL:** <https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121>\
**Category:** GEM Forum\
**Created:** [March 3, 2017, 12:43am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121 "2017-03-03T00:43:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Shcarnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Shcarnut](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Shcarnut)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 12:43am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/1 "2017-03-03T00:43:11Z")

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I have a 2007 gem installed new batteries dash powers up no codes showing full charge on dash charger shows 3 bars and charging no codes voltage reads 85 volts on tester car won’t move can anyone help me  
Previous owner installed agm batteries did not change algorithm on charger

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/2 "2017-03-03T01:49:36Z")

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I’m not a good guesser.  
Whenever I invite Rodney, he gets it right.  
85v is within a 1/2v of being too high to run. Would show a code though.  
Charger unplugged? Parking brake slammed home?

That’s all I got.

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**Author:** ![Shcarnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Shcarnut](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Shcarnut)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/3 "2017-03-03T02:08:28Z")

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Yes charger unplugged parking brake slamed 80 volts in and out of controler the 2 small wires out of cotroler varies but never over 5 volts could it be cotroler?

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/4 "2017-03-03T03:17:29Z")

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Not likely. Most problems with motor or controller gives an error code.  
Do you you hear a big click when turning the key on?  
You won’t have power at controller until main relay clicks in.

What was the last thing you did? Look there.

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**Author:** ![Shcarnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Shcarnut](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Shcarnut)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 10:36am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/5 "2017-03-03T10:36:31Z")

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I get click when I step on excelerater pedal with key on

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**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/6 "2017-03-03T15:40:00Z")

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The click your hearing is the Makeing contact or clicking in.

Be sure your NOT hearing it “Click Out” example you #1 turn the key on. #2 You lower the ebrake thats when you should hear the car “Click In” be sure that when your pushing down on the gas your not hearing the car “click out” or the main contact “un engages”

If the main contact “clicks out” you will have nothing. The car will be all lit up and ready to go but it will do nothing. Let’s be sure what’s going on.

Let us know what position you contact is in when you step on the gas. If your in sure you can take the Dash off and you can see the contact and you should be able to see if it’s clicked in or clicked out

Report back

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**Author:** ![Shcarnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Shcarnut](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Shcarnut)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/7 "2017-03-03T16:41:11Z")

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I get one big click when acselerater pedal depressed I see switch and it’s ingaged this is with key on break off only

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/8 "2017-03-03T17:40:24Z")

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The controller pulls in the main contactor.  
You can check for 72v from B- to B+ at controller.  
Next I would ohm motor.  
A to A and F to F  
I don’t know if brushes can stick on these motors. On similar brushed motors, I’ve tapped them while rocking car to free them. If you have low ohms A to A they’re ok.  
If you make the check from controller ends of wires, it also checks motor connections.

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**Author:** ![Shcarnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Shcarnut](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Shcarnut)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/9 "2017-03-03T19:18:29Z")

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Low ohms on both a a and f f rocking and tapping didn’t work

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/10 "2017-03-03T19:29:11Z")

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Then it’s weird controller or wiring problem that doesn’t throw a code.  
Try re-seating the 23p connector on controller.  
This is where Sentry monitor sw comes in handy.  
It allows you to “see” inside controller.

Without that, you’re stuck probing for proper voltage at controller.  
I’ll draw a picture, but it’s easier said than done. (probing safely)

Did I invite Rodney? This is more his area. I’m all theory-he has been there and done that. Grant too.

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**Author:** ![Inwo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/inwo/32/1067_2.png) [@Inwo](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Inwo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/11 "2017-03-03T19:41:52Z")

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All checked with meter common to B-

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**Author:** ![Shcarnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Shcarnut](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Shcarnut)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/12 "2017-03-03T21:53:59Z")

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Im not sure if you invited anyone else but thanks for all the help I will check plug mon morning

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**Author:** ![grantwest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/grantwest/32/15_2.png) [@grantwest](https://community.electricforum.com/u/grantwest)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/13 "2017-03-04T16:43:59Z")

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Brushes can and do stick. Typical a stuck brush will just give you poor performance, but I have only had one car that had a stuck brush.

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**Author:** ![Shcarnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Shcarnut](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Shcarnut)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/14 "2017-03-08T00:04:35Z")

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Got the gem working today all I did was reseat 24 pin plug in cotroler lol thanks for all your help it was a learning experience

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**Author:** ![cftyson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@cftyson](https://community.electricforum.com/u/cftyson)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/16 "2020-02-17T00:01:58Z")

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Got a similar problem. New batteries check charge on each and right at 13 volts. Check input from all batteries and get a little over 72 volts. Turn on switch and solenoid center pole clicks and locks in. Cart will not move at that point. No error codes showing.

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Rice](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/evan_rice/32/6294_2.png) [@Evan\_Rice](https://community.electricforum.com/u/Evan_Rice)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/17 "2020-03-23T19:40:23Z")

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I have a 2012 gem eL XD that keeps throwing a 64 and 57 code and I don’t know what to do with it to get it back running can anyone help

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**Author:** ![kwmatt24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@kwmatt24](https://community.electricforum.com/u/kwmatt24)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/18 "2024-10-02T01:00:29Z")

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did you figure out your issue?

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**Author:** ![AssyRequired](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.electricforum.com/assyrequired/32/7621_2.png) [@AssyRequired](https://community.electricforum.com/u/AssyRequired)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.electricforum.com/t/07-gem-wont-move/12121/19 "2024-10-02T15:37:37Z")

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@kwmatt24 -  
Quick - delete this post before someone else notices you replied to a 7 year old topic. (I think it’s dead)
